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#181160 - 04/05/14 07:27 PM Choosing a paint scheme for 2177C
Redpenny Offline
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Registered: 01/15/13
Posts: 22
Loc: California
Hi all,

Some folks know that I fly a 177 instead of a 172, but despite that I have been allowed to hang around here anyway smile

OK, I have decided to paint 2177C my delightful 1978 177B and thought I would post the 4 schemes for insightful input or collective horror. I downloaded a very good line drawing of the 177 from a site called The-Blueprints in .dwg format (for 9 Euros...) and dropped it into AutoCad (I am an architect). From there I started designing schemes. Came up with quite a few and have narrowed it down to these four choices. The cardinal drawing and the words 'Cardinal Classic' are already on the tail and I will keep those. And the N-number will go to 828RF in honor of my Dad who we lost last year.

Note: The overall palette is a deep red going to darker shades. The darkest color will be a deep burgundy and the yellow will be gold. AutoCad is kinda limited color wise so the colors on the jpgs are off a bit.

Please comment if you would like, all input welcome. I am probably going to go with Kracon in Sacramento. But input on paint shops in Northern California also welcome.

Thanks!

Here are the schemes so far:






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#181165 - 04/05/14 07:48 PM Re: Choosing a paint scheme for 2177C [Re: Redpenny]
Nintendo Pilot Offline
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Loc: Utah
I like the flowing lines of #2 the best. I think you will like the choice of red but then... I'm a bit biased. I chose "Cranberry Craze" as my secondary color and love it.
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#181166 - 04/05/14 07:48 PM Re: Choosing a paint scheme for 2177C [Re: Redpenny]
Ward Holbrook Offline
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#181167 - 04/05/14 07:52 PM Re: Choosing a paint scheme for 2177C [Re: Ward Holbrook]
Showboatsix Offline
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White...... With your stripe color "here".

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#181169 - 04/05/14 08:02 PM Re: Choosing a paint scheme for 2177C [Re: Ward Holbrook]
Nintendo Pilot Offline
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Originally Posted By: Ward Holbrook
Here are some more ideas...

http://www.schemedesigners.com/samples.htm


This one is very nice. Not that you'd want to copy it exactly as it was for a special purpose but the idea is cool.

http://www.schemedesigners.com/Sample-C177B-AOPA.htm
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#181300 - 04/07/14 01:23 AM Re: Choosing a paint scheme for 2177C [Re: Nintendo Pilot]
Redpenny Offline
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Registered: 01/15/13
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Loc: California
Well darn it, I am going to assume that from the number of views, but the lack of comments that these schemes do not even rise to the level of just 'OK', let alone nice.

Looks like it is back to the drawing board for another round or two, such is the life of a designer... Maybe I will go back to a more traditional scheme from the Cardinal playbook.

Nintendo and Ward, been to SchemeDesigners website many times and have looked at all of their designs quite a bit.

Did see that Cardinal in person from the AOPA giveaway, it is shocking in person. The Cardinal on the tail is just huge!
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#181302 - 04/07/14 01:25 AM Re: Choosing a paint scheme for 2177C [Re: Redpenny]
Will Johnson Offline
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Registered: 10/30/13
Posts: 124
Loc: Karnes City, Texas
I'm with Nintendo. Your scheme #2 seems to flow nicely and gives the plane a modern feel.
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#181303 - 04/07/14 01:32 AM Re: Choosing a paint scheme for 2177C [Re: Redpenny]
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I really like #3. #1 and #4 look pretty on paper, but I think you'd find that, when painted on a real airplane in a ground-rest attitude, they would look awkward. The horizontal likes would all look like they were sloping downward front to back. But #3 would look terrific sitting on the ground, and that's the only time a paint scheme matters, anyway.
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#181367 - 04/07/14 03:38 AM Re: Choosing a paint scheme for 2177C [Re: Pilawt]
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... Or you could do a scheme like this one! grin

(This airplane is based at my home field)

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#181375 - 04/07/14 04:31 AM Re: Choosing a paint scheme for 2177C [Re: Pilawt]
zachmandu Offline
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Registered: 02/08/13
Posts: 87
Loc: Southeast Alaska
I like #2 as well....

Before I painted my plane last year, I was obsessed with looking at 172 paint schemes online, for MONTHS. Never did find anything that really stood out. I ended up going with a simple two-color design over white, that was simple enough and classic enough for my tastes.....

Good luck!

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#181376 - 04/07/14 04:33 AM Re: Choosing a paint scheme for 2177C [Re: Pilawt]
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I like #2 but I think I'd like it better without the "ribbons"
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#181383 - 04/07/14 05:21 AM Re: Choosing a paint scheme for 2177C [Re: Pilawt]
Ward Holbrook Offline
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Loc: Kaysville, Utah
Originally Posted By: Pilawt
... Or you could do a scheme like this one! grin

(This airplane is based at my home field)


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#181386 - 04/07/14 08:28 AM Re: Choosing a paint scheme for 2177C [Re: Ward Holbrook]
Redpenny Offline
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Registered: 01/15/13
Posts: 22
Loc: California
Thank you everyone for your comments, very helpful. I think that I am a little obsessed right now, but then that's me. And Pilawt is dead on saying that paint is only important when the planes on the ground!

As for 723SB.... it would surely stand out in any crowd of Cardinals and I'll bet it's easy to find in the parking lot!

I'll do more work, but the input is great and thanks to all again.
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#181393 - 04/07/14 12:18 PM Re: Choosing a paint scheme for 2177C [Re: Redpenny]
Fischer Offline
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Registered: 04/27/11
Posts: 648
Loc: Georgia
My vote is for #2. I like the flowing lines. Seems to be the way modern paint schemes are going. Any new paint job is going to look great.

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#181427 - 04/07/14 05:17 PM Re: Choosing a paint scheme for 2177C [Re: Fischer]
Birdman Offline
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Registered: 07/06/12
Posts: 667
Loc: Woodland, CA, USA
I like #2 as well but it is a newer paint scheme. You mention it will have "Cardinal Classic" on the plane. I don't know how much you may want to stick to the "Classic" part of it. If you do then one of the more classic paint schemes may be in order.

As for the paint shop, Kracon is at Lincoln right? Cal Aggie Flyers has had at least four airplanes painted there within the last couple of years. The planes look nice and they keep going back so I would guess they are satisfied with their service. I can check with the Chief Pilot/Manager if I see him soon and ask what his experience was.

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#181471 - 04/08/14 12:06 AM Re: Choosing a paint scheme for 2177C [Re: Birdman]
Redpenny Offline
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Registered: 01/15/13
Posts: 22
Loc: California
Birdman, thanks for that. I have no experience with painting a plane so any feedback would be helpful. And yes, they are in Lincoln.

Looks like #2 is running away with it. Again, thanks everyone great to get the input.
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#181472 - 04/08/14 12:10 AM Re: Choosing a paint scheme for 2177C [Re: Redpenny]
Shifty Offline
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Registered: 06/01/11
Posts: 245
Loc: Florida
My vote is for #1. Can't get used to the "swoopy" look of #2 and #3 looks too low in the nose. Between 1 and 4 I like the ascending white stripe on the rudder of #1 a little bit better. Just my 2 cents.

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#181488 - 04/08/14 02:50 AM Re: Choosing a paint scheme for 2177C [Re: Shifty]
Birdman Offline
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Registered: 07/06/12
Posts: 667
Loc: Woodland, CA, USA
Redpenny did you get my PM? More info on the shop that painted my plane before I owned it.

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#181537 - 04/08/14 10:57 AM Re: Choosing a paint scheme for 2177C [Re: Birdman]
Rusty Rudder Offline
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Registered: 02/26/10
Posts: 8613
Loc: Fair Haven New York
Of the four posted, #2 caught my eye.
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#181565 - 04/08/14 04:57 PM Re: Choosing a paint scheme for 2177C [Re: Redpenny]
Don Tedrow Offline
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Registered: 07/16/10
Posts: 3659
Loc: Bastrop, TX
Of the four, I like #2 best as well, except I'd probably paint the pants a more solid red with just a bit of trim.


This is another scheme I like though:

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#181587 - 04/08/14 07:10 PM Re: Choosing a paint scheme for 2177C [Re: Don Tedrow]
tvpilot Offline
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Loc: Marietta, GA
I vote for #2!
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#181686 - 04/09/14 03:31 PM Re: Choosing a paint scheme for 2177C [Re: tvpilot]
Redpenny Offline
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Registered: 01/15/13
Posts: 22
Loc: California
Bridman, got your PM and sent you back a message. Don, good call on the pants, I have been messing with them a lot and will give a more solid look a try.

#2 is pretty much along the lines of the modern paint jobs that I see. With all of the good comments I can start refining a couple of the schemes. This has been so valuable for me and I thank everyone here. Designing in a vacuum is hard and having a forum for comment is great!
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#181690 - 04/09/14 04:13 PM Re: Choosing a paint scheme for 2177C [Re: Redpenny]
Nintendo Pilot Offline
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Registered: 05/23/11
Posts: 1744
Loc: Utah
Don brings up a good point. Attention to detail is really important and it sounds like you are doing just that. If you go with #2, take a look at the main gear fairing cuffs. I would not paint them white with the bottom half of the fuse red. It just does not look right. I had the same decision when I had my plane painted last Sept. Review the link to the scheme I used and contrast the actual completed work in example with specific attention to where the gear fairing meets the fuse.

http://www.schemedesigners.com/Sample-C172XP-McClellan.htm

My completed paint project. Imagine how it might look with those cuffs painted white. I think it would really clash and look like Puss in Boots. These are the small things that will make a big difference.



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#181732 - 04/09/14 10:34 PM Re: Choosing a paint scheme for 2177C [Re: Nintendo Pilot]
KCDean Offline
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Registered: 02/10/11
Posts: 338
Loc: East Texas
#2 with Cranberry Craze as the second color. I painted my wheel pants white, but am going to carry my strip pattern onto them before long.


Edited by KCDean (04/09/14 10:37 PM)
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#181755 - 04/10/14 12:59 AM Re: Choosing a paint scheme for 2177C [Re: KCDean]
Birdman Offline
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Loc: Woodland, CA, USA
Redpenny I checked with the manager of Cal Aggie Flyers and he said he was very satisfied with Kracon's work. He said they were very trustworthy, honest and good to work with. If you wanted to look at their work you could stop by University Airport (KEDU) in Davis and take a look at the planes. There is a 152, 172, 182RG, and a Seminole as examples.

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