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#181217 - 04/06/14 05:33 AM Re: 172 production by model and year [Re: Pilawt]
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1965 172F


1965 172F Skyhawk


1966 172G


1966 172G Skyhawk


1967 172H


1967 172H Skyhawk


1968 172I Skyhawk


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#181218 - 04/06/14 05:38 AM Re: 172 production by model and year [Re: Pilawt]
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1969 172K


1969 172K Skyhawk


1970 172K


1970 172K Skyhawk


1971 172L Skyhawk


1972 172L Skyhawk


1973 172M Skyhawk


1974 172M Skyhawk


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#181219 - 04/06/14 05:43 AM Re: 172 production by model and year [Re: Pilawt]
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Wow, the 1967H is the twin to what I own. Mine has a few streaks of oil on the belly though.
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#181220 - 04/06/14 05:44 AM Re: 172 production by model and year [Re: Pilawt]
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1975 172M Skyhawk


1976 172M Skyhawk


1977 172N Skyhawk


1978 172N Skyhawk


1979 172N Skyhawk


1980 172N Skyhawk


1981 172P Skyhawk


1982 172P Skyhawk


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#181223 - 04/06/14 05:51 AM Re: 172 production by model and year [Re: Pilawt]
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1983 172P Skyhawk


1983 172Q Cutlass


1984 172P Skyhawk


1985 172P Skyhawk


1986 172P Skyhawk


[more to follow]
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#181224 - 04/06/14 05:56 AM Re: 172 production by model and year [Re: Pilawt]
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I thought the Cutlas was a retract.
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#181225 - 04/06/14 05:57 AM Re: 172 production by model and year [Re: Pilawt]
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1980 172RG Cutlass RG


1981 172RG Cutlass RG


1982 172RG Cutlass RG


1984 172RG Cutlass RG


1977 R172K Hawk XP


1978 R172K Hawk XP


1979 R172K Hawk XP


1980 R172K Hawk XP


1981 R172K Hawk XP
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#181227 - 04/06/14 06:01 AM Re: 172 production by model and year [Re: Luvrv8]
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Originally Posted By: Luvrv8
I thought the Cutlas was a retract.

Model 172Q Cutlass (1983-85): fixed gear, 180 hp Lycoming O-360-A4N, fixed-pitch prop

Model 172RG Cutlass RG (1980-85): retractable gear, 180 hp Lycoming O-360-F1A6, constant-speed prop
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#181247 - 04/06/14 01:21 PM Re: 172 production by model and year [Re: Pilawt]
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Great collection of 172 photographs Jeff, thanx for posting !
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#181258 - 04/06/14 04:00 PM Re: 172 production by model and year [Re: Rusty Rudder]
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Since 175s are family, too:

1958 175


1959 175


1960 175A


1960 175A Skylark


1961 175B


1961 175B Skylark


1962 175C Skylark (there was no "base" model that year)


1968 FR172E Reims Rocket


1970 FR172G Reims Rocket
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#185736 - 05/01/14 04:52 AM Re: 172 production by model and year [Re: Pilawt]
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The 2 unique 172's

172


R172P
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#185940 - 05/02/14 05:34 AM Re: 172 production by model and year [Re: PorcoRosso]
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Originally Posted By: PorcoRosso
The 2 unique 172's

172


R172P


I've seen that record-holding '58 172 hanging over the bag claim carousels at KLAS. Imagine -- takeoff in December 1958 and land in February 1959. Over 1500 hours in one logbook entry! To this day, no other airplane, civil or military, comes anywhere close to this record.

That link for the photo of Matthias Rust's F172P (not R172P) isn't working for me. Try here:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Reims-F172P-Skyhawk/1964710/L
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#196189 - 07/07/14 12:53 PM Re: 172 production by model and year [Re: Cessna Dude]
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Hello Thanks for the great Pictures!
Does anyone know about the differences build in France (Reims). Also maybe pictures since they seem have used different paint schemes as well. In general I seem to have a hard time finding history specific to Reims.

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#196302 - 07/07/14 11:59 PM Re: 172 production by model and year [Re: RocketPilotHD]
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Originally Posted By: RocketPilotHD
Does anyone know about the differences build in France (Reims). Also maybe pictures since they seem have used different paint schemes as well.

I'm not sure of all the differences between the Reims F172 and the US-built 172, but here are some major ones:

-- US-built 172s switched from the Continental O-300 to the Lycoming O-320 engine for the 1968 model year (172I). Reims F172s continued using the Rolls-Royce/Continental O-300 through the 1971 model year (F172H), and switched to the Lycoming O-320 with the 1972 F172L.

-- Reims-built F172s with the Rolls-Royce/Continental engine had a rectangular "Rolls-Royce" logo on the cowl (the small silver rectangle below the windshield in this photo of a 1968 F172H: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Reims-F172H/1426880/L). The logo was a sticker that did not weather well, so it's not a reliable spotting feature.

-- The US-built 1972 172L was the first to have the longer dorsal fin (https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/jWN_wf-M8moxB82-OR8NdTfYiar2kKj38SJztGKxCAg?feat=directlink). The 1972 F172L still had the old, smaller dorsal (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Motor-Flygskolen/Reims-F172L/0503762/L). The first Reims-built F172 with the long dorsal was the 1973 F172M.

-- Each year from 1961 until 1971 the paint schemes for the base-model US 172s were different from those for the higher-priced "Skyhawk" version. The French-built versions had paint schemes similar to the US base-model schemes (not often seen here, as the vast majority of US 172s were purchased with the optional "Skyhawk" package). When I get some time I'll post links to some example photos.

-- F172s did not display the name "Skyhawk" until the 1974 model year.

-- From 1978 through 1982 the FAA allowed new light airplanes to have small registration marks, and Cessna designed paint schemes that did not leave room for the usual 12-inch marks still required in other countries. French-built airplanes had modified paint schemes to accommodate 12-inch registration marks. Compare a US 1981 172P (https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/OQ04IAdFi3d3FBnLTBIU-jfYiar2kKj38SJztGKxCAg?feat=directlink) with a 1981 F172P (www.airliners.net/photo/Reims-F172P-Skyhawk/0403446/L).
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#196308 - 07/08/14 12:29 AM Re: 172 production by model and year [Re: Pilawt]
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Originally Posted By: Pilawt
The US-built 1972 172L was the first to have the longer dorsal fin (https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/jWN_wf-M8moxB82-OR8NdTfYiar2kKj38SJztGKxCAg?feat=directlink). The 1972 F172L still had the old, smaller dorsal (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Motor-Flygskolen/Reims-F172L/0503762/L). The first Reims-built F172 with the long dorsal was the 1973 F172M.


Thanks for the information. Very interesting. You are right on the Rolls-Royce sticker. On mine its just a white sticker. The logo has completely faded. Just one thing about the dorsal fin. Not sure if I am missing something. But my bird was sold to me as a '71 and the POH does say last changes made in '71 but according to a a service manual from '68-'76 (found on the Internet) the serial numbers say its a '72. It has the exact same paint as the C172L '72 you posted and it also has the long dorsal fin.

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#196333 - 07/08/14 03:10 AM Re: 172 production by model and year [Re: RocketPilotHD]
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Sorry, I didn't realize you were talking about the FR172 Reims Rocket. My post above referred only to the standard (145-160 hp) 172 versions.

Yes, the 1972 F172L (150 hp) did not have the long dorsal, but the 1972 FR172H Reims Rocket (210 hp) did. Here's an example:
www.airliners.net/photo/Reims-FR172H-Reims/2413636/L

Cessna did not sell the R172 (Continental IO-360 engine) in the US civilian market until the 1977 R172K Hawk XP. So before that there was no US civilian counterpart to the Reims Rocket. All US-built R172s before 1977 went to military customers.
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#196388 - 07/08/14 05:33 PM Re: 172 production by model and year [Re: Pilawt]
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Thank you Pilawt!

You sure know a lot about all this. I started looking for original paint pictures for every model and year made in Reims and in the USA. I think I actually managed to get them all except for the 1963 F172D, 1978 FR172K Hawk XP and the 3 FP172 from 63. Do you happen to have any of those? I guess the small number produced makes it harder.

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#196393 - 07/08/14 06:28 PM Re: 172 production by model and year [Re: RocketPilotHD]
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Thanks for posting these. It's a lot of fun to see the minor changes from year to year.

Does anyone know what the dome shaped object is that's between the rear window and the dorsal fin on the 1964 C172E's? Neither my E model, nor the other 3 E's I know of on my field have this. Some sort of radio antenna, I assume?

Also, what are the major differences between the 172 and 175? Externally they seem quite similar.

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#196399 - 07/08/14 07:16 PM Re: 172 production by model and year [Re: MrOutdoorsie]
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My 172E doesn't have that "bump" near the dorsal fin either. Interesting that the two pictures of that model on this forum have it. I've never seen anything like that on any 172.
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#196408 - 07/08/14 08:56 PM Re: 172 production by model and year [Re: Henry M]
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The "bump" in those 172Es in the factory photos were ADF antennas.

The 175 was built under a different type certificate from the 172, because of structural differences to accommodate the higher gross weight. The later 172RG and R172 (Hawk XP) were built under the 175's T.C.

Aside from the geared engine and larger cowl, the original 175 (1958) differed from the 172 of that day in a having more squared-off shape to the lower windshield and firewall, and and larger instrument panel area. The 172 had almost a semi-circular shape in those areas.

1959 172:





1959 175:





The 172 was redesigned in 1961 to give its forward cabin and windshield a look more similar to the 175.

As with the 172, the 175 got a swept tail in 1960 (175A). The 175A also was the first to have the distinctive 'hump' on the cowl behind the high geared prop.



The 1962 175C had a constant-speed prop and cowl flaps.

The following year, 1963, there was no 175. Instead, the 175's engine, cowl, prop, cowl flaps and type certificate were combined with the 172's new "Omni-Vision" fuselage to create the P172D Powermatic and Skyhawk Powermatic. Only 65 were sold, and it was discontinued after the 1963 model year.
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#211196 - 10/18/14 11:28 PM Re: 172 production by model and year [Re: Pilawt]
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So... what distinguishes "superhawks" from "skyhawks"? I've seen some superhawks w/180 hp engines, was that from the factory? Have noticed a different tier of pricing for what seem to be similar planes outside the "superhawk" moniker.

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#211206 - 10/19/14 12:53 AM Re: 172 production by model and year [Re: Ron Patton]
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Originally Posted By: Ron Patton
So... what distinguishes "superhawks" from "skyhawks"? I've seen some superhawks w/180 hp engines, was that from the factory?


"Superhawk" is a trade name used by Penn Yan Aero for its 180hp STC conversion of lower-powered Cessna 172s. Other companies have also marketed 180 hp conversions, notably Air Plains Services (and Avcon, which is now out of business, I believe), but Penn Yan owns the "Superhawk" name.

Cessna built a few 172s with the same carbureted 180 hp Lycoming O-360-A4N from 1983 to 1985. They were called the 172Q Cutlass (not to be confused with the retractable 172RG "Cutlass RG"), and were built and sold alongside the 160 hp 172P Skyhawk. The 172Q is virtually identical to the Penn Yan and Air Plains 180 hp conversions.

The current 172S Skyhawk SP, in production since 1999, has a fuel-injected 180 hp Lycoming IO-360 engine.

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