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#350666 - 08/18/17 01:48 PM best one to train in and then take short trips
bluffman22 Offline
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Registered: 08/17/17
Posts: 4
Loc: mississippi
Title says it... looking at a 150 or 172 , the 150 will not give me and the fiance enough room for gross takeoff. but a 150 is ideal to train in....looking to train and fly 250 miles one way to visit family.

So the 172 fits that bill, but the 150 I think is a better fit to train in and could sell after training.


PS I do have some time on both mentioned and a Mooney M20C and Grumman Tiger.


Its a 5 hour drive to her parents house and we would like to go more often so trying to reduce the amount of time driving. and I know all too well this is not a cheap hobby or leisure
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#350708 - 08/19/17 03:20 AM Re: best one to train in and then take short trips [Re: bluffman22]
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Are you cycling? If you want to carry two folding bikes, the 150/152 is out and the older 172s remain ... I went the way to an older O-300 172.


Edited by Flubber4.0 (08/19/17 03:20 AM)
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#350711 - 08/19/17 04:30 AM Re: best one to train in and then take short trips [Re: Flubber4.0]
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A 172 is just as good of a trainer as a 150/152. It consumes a little more gas, and the initial price could be a little higher, but maintenance and care are about the same. I find it a much more comfortable plane than the 150 I used to own. I don't see any problem getting your license in a 172.
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#350713 - 08/19/17 04:37 AM Re: best one to train in and then take short trips [Re: Henry M.]
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Originally Posted By: Henry M.
A 172 is just as good of a trainer as a 150/152. It consumes a little more gas, and the initial price could be a little higher, but maintenance and care are about the same. I find it a much more comfortable plane than the 150 I used to own. I don't see any problem getting your license in a 172.


I agree, a 172 is perfect because you can keep it after training to use with a small family.
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#350714 - 08/19/17 04:53 AM Re: best one to train in and then take short trips [Re: Challenger1]
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I wonder if the costs of buying and selling a 150 would wipe out the cost savings over starting with a 172? Travel, pre-buy inspection, and taxes if your state has them would have to be paid twice.

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#350716 - 08/19/17 05:35 AM Re: best one to train in and then take short trips [Re: IDontFly]
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bluffman22, why is driving your opinion that the 150 is better to train in?

Other than perhaps using maybe 2-3 gal/h less than a 172, I don't see anything that is better about it. Over say 50 hours of training, gas would be less than $600 difference ($3.76/gal where I am based). You probably can't make that up in buying two planes and selling one, as IDo tFly points out. I enjoy flying my 172 more than I did flying the 150. If the 172 is your goal, just go for it up front.
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#350723 - 08/19/17 06:21 AM Re: best one to train in and then take short trips [Re: Henry M.]
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Well, there are several ways to look at it....I'm not on board with just jumping into the 172 so fast. For $15,000 you could get a fairly reliable Cessna 150 to train in....sell it when you're done and get your money back and maybe even make a few bucks. It may help you decide if you really want to be an airplane owner....it's not for everybody.
If you want the something equal in a 172, you'll be in the 25-30 thousand range. Sure the 172 is roomier, but it does burn more fuel, insurance is higher, and it's not much faster than the 150.
Ultimately, it's your decision and only you know what will fill the need within your budget and goal.
I know people that bought a 150 or 152 many years ago and still have them. I have three Cessna's (172, 172RG, and a 210), and if I had a 150 or 152, I would probably use it the most just to bop around locally.
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#350724 - 08/19/17 06:36 AM Re: best one to train in and then take short trips [Re: Joeman434]
Henry M. Online   content
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Registered: 08/23/11
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Loc: Leander, TX
The main reason I sold my 150 is that my 6'4" son didn't fit in it very well. The yoke would hit his legs and the seat couldn't be pushed back enough for him. It also had limited shoulder width. At 6'1", it also wasn't very comfortable for me to climb in and out of it, though I was fine once strapped in. The guy I sold it to was maybe 5'5", and it fit him like a glove. Thus, your own size makes a difference in the selection.

Maybe I lucked out, but my 172 was only a couple of thousand more than my 150, in similar good condition. Insurance is about the same even with a higher hull value. Annuals run me the same.


Edited by Henry M. (08/19/17 06:40 AM)
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#350732 - 08/19/17 09:28 AM Re: best one to train in and then take short trips [Re: Henry M.]
bluffman22 Offline
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Registered: 08/17/17
Posts: 4
Loc: mississippi
thanks for the responses.....I am assuming being able to sell a 150 after training like one above poster said and recoop my money versus renting to train in....I do agree with those who said go with a 172 from the get go.....I however am not dead set on a 172 (after flying the M20) I fell in love with the speed smile

I know thats a whole different game.....thank you all for your valuable input and keep them coming....

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#350737 - 08/19/17 12:22 PM Re: best one to train in and then take short trips [Re: bluffman22]
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With regards to selling value the 150 may not be much different from the 172, but I would assume it is easier to sell a 172 ... I can't follow the idea to the 150, it is a 50% 172 at 90% costs.
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#350742 - 08/19/17 02:00 PM Re: best one to train in and then take short trips [Re: Flubber4.0]
Don Tedrow Offline
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Registered: 07/16/10
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Seriously, I wouldn't lock myself into any particular model. 152, 172, Cherokee, Tripacer, Cheetah...

You can learn to fly in any of them. What I'd be looking for is the best DEAL you can find nearby. By deal, I mean the best airframe and engine at the best price. Make sure you read all the threads about buying an airplane, and the traps. A $10,000 bill on your first annual would be a tough pill.

Get 150-200 hours and decide if GA and airplane ownership is a good fit for you and your fiance. If it is, then you can take your sweet time finding the *exact* plane you want to keep.

Good deals tend to sell fast, and those with cash usually win.
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#350743 - 08/19/17 02:34 PM Re: best one to train in and then take short trips [Re: Flubber4.0]
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Originally Posted By: Flubber4.0
but I would assume it is easier to sell a 172 ...


Not quite the case here....150-152's sell as fast as they hit the market. 172's seem to hang around for a lot longer.
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