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#79345 - 05/17/12 04:14 AM Re: Diary of My 172M [Re: Fischer]
KCDean Offline
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Looks like it says that the ELT is located behind the panel and should be inspected in accordance with......
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#79395 - 05/17/12 03:45 PM Re: Diary of My 172M [Re: KCDean]
Fischer Offline
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Originally Posted By: KCDean
Looks like it says that the ELT is located behind the panel and should be inspected in accordance with......


Oh, that panel blush Yes, you are right. It also states when the batteries are due. I thought you were referring to the actual baggage door sticker. My bad.
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#79820 - 05/20/12 09:30 PM Re: Diary of My 172M [Re: Fischer]
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Today , Sunday, I finally managed to sneak away for 2 hours in hopes of actually FLYING my plane. I pulled it out, performed a pre-flight, and then went into the lobby to use the restroom and see who was working the counter. I quickly learned they were out of gas! No fuel frown I use one of those clear tube Cessna fuel sticks and determined I had 4 gallons in one wing and 5 in the other. Not good. After a month of sitting I was anxious to get up and fly and get the engine in it's groove. Not today.

So, I strapped in, started her up (fired right away!) warmed up the engine, set all the instruments/GPS/gauges and taxied to the runway to perform a run-up. Everything was working perfect, nobody was out, so I "flew" to the other end of the runway. About 5'-10' off the ground in effect and then chopped power. That's as far from the runway I felt comfortable flying with less than 8 (by now) gallons of fuel. I know, I could have flown a pattern, but I'm hoping Monday will get me time and gas for a REAL flight.
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#79825 - 05/20/12 11:00 PM Re: Diary of My 172M [Re: Fischer]
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What kind of FBO dosnt keep fuel in stock? lol.
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#79844 - 05/21/12 01:23 AM Re: Diary of My 172M [Re: flyer921]
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When are you going to tape off the lower panel? I am almost to that point (hoping for next Saturday) and am interested in seeing yours.
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#79846 - 05/21/12 01:47 AM Re: Diary of My 172M [Re: KCDean]
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I'm taking a break, but not for long. I want to fly it. After all, I just bought this plane, my very first, and I've flown it about 1 hour. I need to do some flying, then I will have to mask the entire inside (except the lower panel) and spend a few hours taping everything off. The actual painting will have to be shot all at the same time as you have to re-coat within the hour or wait at least 24. Then, I'll have to re-label it all. I'm 95% there....just want to fly a little smile
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#79855 - 05/21/12 03:04 AM Re: Diary of My 172M [Re: Fischer]
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Originally Posted By: Fischer
I'm taking a break, but not for long. I want to fly it. After all, I just bought this plane, my very first, and I've flown it about 1 hour. I need to do some flying, then I will have to mask the entire inside (except the lower panel) and spend a few hours taping everything off. The actual painting will have to be shot all at the same time as you have to re-coat within the hour or wait at least 24. Then, I'll have to re-label it all. I'm 95% there....just want to fly a little smile


You should fly it up to Strother so we can see all this effort!
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#79858 - 05/21/12 03:22 AM Re: Diary of My 172M [Re: KCDean]
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Originally Posted By: KCDean
Looks like it says that the ELT is located behind the panel and should be inspected in accordance with......


Sounds like a required label. I know I don't have anything in that location, I'm goning to have to search mine out.

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#79885 - 05/21/12 12:53 PM Re: Diary of My 172M [Re: genel]
Fischer Offline
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My ELT is not in the "ELT" section on the upper corner of the baggage compartment. It is mounted in the lower corner behind those stickers. I added one for the battery due date besides the "inspection....." stickers that were already there when I bought it.

Not to sound like a noob, but where is Strother? If it's anywhere too far from NW Georgia I can tell you what the answer would be. frown I am the sole employee, I fix air conditioners, and it will be the peak of the summer. However, this is the time I earn all my AV gas money for the year. smile
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#80082 - 05/23/12 03:10 AM Re: Diary of My 172M [Re: Fischer]
Fischer Offline
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I went out to the airport today after lunch and I was able to get about 45 minutes of pattern and local flying time. My FBO now had fuel (unlike Sunday) and I was able to drop a Franklin in the wings. I wanted to do some stall practice in my new bird, but the clouds were at 3900' and Dalton is 710' MSL. I wanted more comfort / altitude. Shook out one bug - GPS antenna slid down the dash - it is now mounted and working. I felt lost and naked without my GPS working. That's what I get for learning to fly in a G1000 equipped plane. Without a digital screen to look at I get antsy! I can hear the more experienced pilots chastising me already.

I did some steep turns, short take-offs, knocked out 3 landings, and just tooled around to get a good feel for my new Cessna. It may sound weird, but I believe in some solo windshield time to get familiar with any new plane, even if it is another 172. I still have to hunt for some of the gauges as I fly and do run-ups. It took me three good flights to go from stem gauges to the G1000, so I need to get more seat time to go back to "analog mode" until it comes natural.

Overall, the plane seems light at the controls and lighter in the air than the '06 I was renting. I do miss the auto-pilot. It is nice to let the plane take over and spend your time scanning gauges, checking the progress, and looking out the window. I might have to look into finding a used auto-pilot set up and having it installed. Maybe off a wrecked 172/182?

After 45 minutes, I knocked out my last landing and put her back in the hangar. One hour later there were thunderstorms and hail. Compared to renting, it was nice to know the meter wasn't running - just gas burning. I'm thinking I may want a partner once I finish up the last 5% of the interior. Defray the costs. It flew beautiful and I was easily cruising 115mph with just me and the power held way back. I couldn't confirm with my AV80R as it was INOP without that antenna in position. I'll keep you posted, but this day was a long time coming!

My next trip I want to fly at least 30 minutes maintaining a course to see how well I can hold it (the course that is). Towards the end of the summer I plan on flying from Georgia to Wisconsin so that would be a true test. It's like driving down the interstate without cruise control.

Thanks for coming along for the ride smile

Bob
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#80119 - 05/23/12 04:13 PM Re: Diary of My 172M [Re: Fischer]
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Hi Bob...fellow Georgia pilot here. Whenever I get my bird out of the shop (probably August) I'll be back at Paulding County if they get the hangars rebuilt by then. KPUJ is having an airshow in October...come on down and meet our crew.

George
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#80184 - 05/24/12 04:16 AM Re: Diary of My 172M [Re: Bigdoggh]
Fischer Offline
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Hey George - Thanks for the invite. I hope you get your plane back soon and better than ever. I'll keep all shows and meets in mind - after all, isn't that why we fly?

As a side note, I stopped by the Home Depot and picked up three thin plastic tarps, masking tape, and a box fan to exhaust the fumes. I'm thinking of tackling the lower dash. I made a diagram of all the switch gear and labels this morning. So, stay tuned and I'll hopefully be wrapping up my interior soon with pictures, of course.
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#80281 - 05/25/12 03:12 AM Re: Diary of My 172M [Re: Fischer]
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This next post is dedicated to KCDean grin

I went to the hangar towards the end of the day to start on the lower dash panel rehab. I figured I might get it taped. I did a little better...

Tools you will need:
1. Some tunes and a cold drink
2. Narrow and wide Scotch masking tape
3. Two 9x12 thin plastic disposable tarps (cut in half while folded up)
4. A brand new razor blade
5. Patience (my wife is going to wonder where I found that one)

I started by removing the rear stops on the front seats so I could slide my seats as far back as possible to get them out of the way. I then removed all the trim rings on the breakers - I will prime and paint them too. I thought I would have a wiring mess with the breakers loose. I was wrong. They all stayed rigid and in place. It is best to leave them there and carefully wrap each breaker with tape and simply squeeze the end together to seal. Very easy. Tape everything else up slowly and methodically. Plastic like crazy.

I bought a cheap $15 box fan and set to exhaust and paint fumes and "dust" that might make it throughout the plane. I also covered the plane on the outside where the fan would exhaust as a precaution. I thought the prep would take hours, but it took only one.

I forgot my nice camera, so I had to use my $20 cell phone camera model #SUX2000. I apologize ahead of time.

It looked like this:



I closed the hangar door for the actual priming, so it got dark and my lack of flash is apparent. After laying down four light coats of primer I called it a day.
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#80286 - 05/25/12 03:45 AM Re: Diary of My 172M [Re: Fischer]
KCDean Offline
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Thanks for posting. I am getting ready to do the same thing on Saturday and looking at yours really helps. My interior has been completely removed, so mine should be somewhat easier. I will do the lower panel, pedestal, doors, and door frames while I am at it. I am having to paint the pedestal in place because I can't get the fuel selector handle off, so... There is a pin holding the handle on and I can't get it out. Thought about cutting the handle off the shaft, but a replacement goes for about $250.

The rest of my plastic is in very good shape (for 45+ year old plastic) and will only need some minor crack repair before I paint them. They won't get reinstalled until the seats and side panels are ready to go back in.

I have enjoyed your photos and posts.


Edited by KCDean (05/25/12 03:59 AM)
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#81835 - 06/10/12 08:41 PM Re: Diary of My 172M [Re: KCDean]
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Saturday morning I woke up early and headed for the airport. Blue skies, no wind, and a high ceiling. Perfect. Everything is working great except my panel mounted AV80R. It immediately locked on to the satellites, but then lost them when I fired up the engine. It seems that the avionics and "noise" is canceling out the remote antenna. I will re-route that wire and hope it solves the problem.

Not to stay on the ground, I decided to fly true "VFR" and head to Chattanooga. Made my way up, contacted approach, and performed a few stalls and engine outs to familiarize myself with my new plane. I am happy to report no bad habits. It broke clean and stayed flat with no tendency to roll or spin. In fact, with just me and 20 gallons of fuel, I thought it would never stall with 30 degrees flaps. I was simulating an approach to landing scenario and I had such a pitch up that my airspeed went from 40 to zip due to the angle of attack. Stall horn screaming I thought I would have to set the parking brake if I went any slower.

I flew back to Dalton circling a friend's shop and my wife at a theater. Total Hobbs 1.1 hours and I burned no more than 7 gallons! Now that, is "affordable" flying!

I finished painting the lower panel. I'm so happy the way it turned out and for under $20 with all new labels. I'm glad I didn't blow money on a metal panel or a new over-lay.

As a side note, I'm trying out my new iPad2 with Foreflight. The ADS-B receiver and GPS unit (from Sporty's) is on back order. I can't wait to complete the set-up. I'll report more later on the Foreflight/iPad combo as I go.

Enjoy,

Bob


Here is a before (or during) picture:


And After:



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#81975 - 06/12/12 05:32 AM Re: Diary of My 172M [Re: Fischer]
KCDean Offline
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Nice plane ( and panel) Bob! I finished painting mine last Saturday and have the new carpet, plastic, and most of the new interior back in the plane, I am just waiting on the seats and front quarter panels to be finished. I would post some pictures but not sure how.

KCDean

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#82054 - 06/13/12 03:50 AM Re: Diary of My 172M [Re: KCDean]
Fischer Offline
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Originally Posted By: KCDean
I would post some pictures but not sure how.

KCDean


Thanks KCDean. I have to first upload them to photobucket (it's free). When you hover over the picture in Photobucket, a list pops up below the picture. Click on "IMG Code" and it will say "copied." Then just paste in with your regular typing on here. I always have two internet "sessions" going at once so I can toggle back and forth between here and Photobucket.

So, now that you have the know-how, I want to see pictures. Start a KCDean thread on your improvements - it will be fun for all involved. smile
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#82055 - 06/13/12 03:55 AM Re: Diary of My 172M [Re: Fischer]
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It's an early FATHER'S DAY!!! grin

The big brown truck showed up and delivered my Stratus - Hurah! I charged it up and then took it out to the deck to play. Really simple. My iPad "logged on" to Stratus and I ran back and forth on my deck watching my "plane" circle around on the sectional. I got up to 3 knots pacing around laugh. Can't wait to try it out next flight.
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#82080 - 06/13/12 05:29 AM Re: Diary of My 172M [Re: Fischer]
KCDean Offline
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Thanks for the help Bob, I was able to post some pictures in a new thread.
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#82084 - 06/13/12 06:11 AM Re: Diary of My 172M [Re: KCDean]
Fischer Offline
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Originally Posted By: KCDean
Thanks for the help Bob, I was able to post some pictures in a new thread.

Your welcome. I've already visited and commented on your thread smile
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#82211 - 06/14/12 05:42 AM Re: The Diary of My 172M [Re: KCDean]
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The last time I re-did my panel, I used that new spray paint made exclusively for plastics... Seems to work very well ? I've had all the lower section (breaker panel) replacement plastics for years now,, just haven't got up enough nerve to tackle that part yet... Much easier to just keep gluing it ...lol I replaced all the other interior plastic a few years back and was planning on removing it all for paint after trim a fit, but decided I liked the white mill finish just fine... Kinda looks like a "cream puff" on the inside..
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#82371 - 06/15/12 08:07 PM Re: The Diary of My 172M [Re: windsock]
Fischer Offline
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I have GPS success. I rerouted my av80r gps antenna wire away from everything and ran the wire up through the vent grill on the dash top. Center to center with no contact with other wires. I then started the plane and taxied around to the fuel tank. I had no problems AND my Stratus picked up gps and, get this, weather....from the ground! Weather was not supposed to be available until you get about 500' agl. I also very carefully watched my compass and compared with runway headings to see if the Stratus or GPS antenna threw it off...nope, all is good and I'm happy smile. 30 gallons on board, two gps's, weather and ready to go. My son and I are flying to Crossville tomorrow morning where I'll get a good chance to really shake down Foreflight, Stratus and my panel mounted av80r.
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#82389 - 06/16/12 03:06 AM Re: The Diary of My 172M [Re: Fischer]
KCDean Offline
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Enjoy your flight tomorrow!! I am hoping to have my seats back in sometime this weekend. A lot of good it will do me though, the weather has really sucked lately.

I am interested in how the Stratus works for you. I am hoping to pick one up at Oshkosh next month.
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#82432 - 06/16/12 08:53 PM Re: The Diary of My 172M [Re: KCDean]
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(I posted this on the "iPad in the plane thread too")

I flew this morning from Dalton (DNN) to Crossville (CSV) - about a 40 minute flight with my 8 year-old son. From the ground, I filed my flight plan and sent it in. I checked the weather and winds aloft. I departed and caught a slight tail wind that was forecasted. I opened my flight plan via Nashville Radio (they had it) and tried to climb to 6500'. The clouds (as expected) were going to prevent any VFR flying above 5500'. I picked 4500' and modified my cruise altitude with FSS. We shot along at 120 knots (YES) and I closely watched both ForeFlight and my AV80R mark my path. Eveything was in synch- altitude, heading and speed via stem gauges and GPS units. My Stratus was picking up a bit of rain east of my Crossville destination. I kept my eye on it. While the forecast was favorable until later in the afternoon, the clouds and turbulance were telling a different story.
About 12 miles out from Crossvile Stratus painted a big green blob right over the airport - dang! I closed in and saw the wall of rain 8 miles out. I immediately did a 180 and called up FSS. He picked up my 180 and I reversed my course back to Dalton. Thank you Stratus and ForeFlight. Exactly why I spent the money. Worked just as planned and better than expected.
So, my test flight was a success, my son and I got to go flying, and we enjoyed the views and good weather while avoiding the bad. Filing flight plans and finding favorable winds aloft was just a few finger pokes away. iPad/FF/Stratus is one combo I won't fly without.
My $2.00 review smile
Bob
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#82448 - 06/17/12 02:52 AM Re: The Diary of My 172M [Re: Fischer]
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Love the thread and all the time and effort that went into posting the updates.
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