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#8298 - 05/26/10 11:46 PM Trivia #40
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Since we've been talking about Cherokees lately, what was a PA-32-3M? and what was unique about it? Jeff, I know you know this one, I'm hoping that you have a picture of it.

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#8299 - 05/27/10 12:02 AM Re: Trivia #40 [Re: Ward Holbrook]
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I do. We'll see if anyone knows the answer, then we'll post the photo.

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#8301 - 05/27/10 12:31 AM Re: Trivia #40 [Re: Pilawt]
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Good heavens! How many engines? laugh

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#8316 - 05/27/10 03:57 PM Re: Trivia #40 [Re: Nightowl]
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Originally Posted By: Nightowl
Good heavens! How many engines? laugh




No, that's not it ...

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#8329 - 05/27/10 06:09 PM Re: Trivia #40 [Re: Pilawt]
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Isn't that the floating dock at the Nantucket Yacht Club?

I can always count on the trivia forum to make me feel totally ignorant. Good job fellas! smile
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#8339 - 05/27/10 09:06 PM Re: Trivia #40 [Re: Cessna Dude]
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Hmmm... nobody's biting. Probably time for the photo.

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#8349 - 05/27/10 10:21 PM Re: Trivia #40 [Re: Ward Holbrook]
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Piper management wanted a simplified, inexpensive, six-seat multi-engine airplane and actually considered going with a three-engine, fixed-gear, fixed-prop configuration. crazy This was the original prototype PA-32 airframe (N9999W) with a 250-hp Lycoming in the nose and (initially) 115-hp engines in the wings (later swapped for 150-hp engines).

Gotta think that engine-out performance was nothing to write home about. That looks like the original PA-32 vertical tail, and an inop engine with fixed-pitch prop would certainly create an awful lot of drag (a la Champion Lancer).

The idea of three engines might have had some appeal when this prototype first flew in 1965, in the era of cheap fuel and (relatively) cheap maintenance, but it certainly seems goofy today. Piper finally gave up on the three-engine idea and re-worked the basic airframe into the twin-engine PA-34 "Twin-Six" (fixed gear, 180-hp engines), which ultimately morphed into the Seneca.
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#8372 - 05/28/10 11:15 AM Re: Trivia #40 [Re: Pilawt]
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Originally Posted By: Pilawt


Piper management wanted a simplified, inexpensive, six-seat multi-engine airplane and actually considered going with a three-engine, fixed-gear, fixed-prop configuration. crazy This was the original prototype PA-32 airframe (N9999W) with a 250-hp Lycoming in the nose and (initially) 115-hp engines in the wings (later swapped for 150-hp engines).

Gotta think that engine-out performance was nothing to write home about. That looks like the original PA-32 vertical tail, and an inop engine with fixed-pitch prop would certainly create an awful lot of drag (a la Champion Lancer).

The idea of three engines might have had some appeal when this prototype first flew in 1965, in the era of cheap fuel and (relatively) cheap maintenance, but it certainly seems goofy today. Piper finally gave up on the three-engine idea and re-worked the basic airframe into the twin-engine PA-34 "Twin-Six" (fixed gear, 180-hp engines), which ultimately morphed into the Seneca.


I love trimotors. I fly this one at work:


But there's something about a trimotor Cherokee 6 that's just wrong. Kind of like this one:


All that being said, wouldn't it be fun to be able to fly that kind of stuff?

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