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#8298 - 05/26/10 11:46 PM
Trivia #40
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Registered: 03/26/10
Posts: 1693
Loc: Carpinteria CA
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Since we've been talking about Cherokees lately, what was a PA-32-3M? and what was unique about it? Jeff, I know you know this one, I'm hoping that you have a picture of it.
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#8299 - 05/27/10 12:02 AM
Re: Trivia #40
[Re: Ward Holbrook]
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Registered: 02/13/10
Posts: 1167
Loc: Vancouver, WA
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I do. We'll see if anyone knows the answer, then we'll post the photo. 
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#8301 - 05/27/10 12:31 AM
Re: Trivia #40
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Registered: 02/14/10
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Loc: Northwest lower Michigan
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Good heavens! How many engines? John
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#8316 - 05/27/10 03:57 PM
Re: Trivia #40
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Good heavens! How many engines?  No, that's not it ... 
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#8329 - 05/27/10 06:09 PM
Re: Trivia #40
[Re: Pilawt]
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Registered: 10/21/09
Posts: 5419
Loc: San Antonio, TX
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Isn't that the floating dock at the Nantucket Yacht Club? I can always count on the trivia forum to make me feel totally ignorant. Good job fellas! 
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#8339 - 05/27/10 09:06 PM
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[Re: Cessna Dude]
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Loc: Carpinteria CA
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Hmmm... nobody's biting. Probably time for the photo.
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#8349 - 05/27/10 10:21 PM
Re: Trivia #40
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Piper management wanted a simplified, inexpensive, six-seat multi-engine airplane and actually considered going with a three-engine, fixed-gear, fixed-prop configuration.  This was the original prototype PA-32 airframe (N9999W) with a 250-hp Lycoming in the nose and (initially) 115-hp engines in the wings (later swapped for 150-hp engines). Gotta think that engine-out performance was nothing to write home about. That looks like the original PA-32 vertical tail, and an inop engine with fixed-pitch prop would certainly create an awful lot of drag (a la Champion Lancer). The idea of three engines might have had some appeal when this prototype first flew in 1965, in the era of cheap fuel and (relatively) cheap maintenance, but it certainly seems goofy today. Piper finally gave up on the three-engine idea and re-worked the basic airframe into the twin-engine PA-34 "Twin-Six" (fixed gear, 180-hp engines), which ultimately morphed into the Seneca.
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#8372 - 05/28/10 11:15 AM
Re: Trivia #40
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Loc: Carpinteria CA
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Piper management wanted a simplified, inexpensive, six-seat multi-engine airplane and actually considered going with a three-engine, fixed-gear, fixed-prop configuration.  This was the original prototype PA-32 airframe (N9999W) with a 250-hp Lycoming in the nose and (initially) 115-hp engines in the wings (later swapped for 150-hp engines). Gotta think that engine-out performance was nothing to write home about. That looks like the original PA-32 vertical tail, and an inop engine with fixed-pitch prop would certainly create an awful lot of drag (a la Champion Lancer). The idea of three engines might have had some appeal when this prototype first flew in 1965, in the era of cheap fuel and (relatively) cheap maintenance, but it certainly seems goofy today. Piper finally gave up on the three-engine idea and re-worked the basic airframe into the twin-engine PA-34 "Twin-Six" (fixed gear, 180-hp engines), which ultimately morphed into the Seneca. I love trimotors. I fly this one at work:  But there's something about a trimotor Cherokee 6 that's just wrong. Kind of like this one: All that being said, wouldn't it be fun to be able to fly that kind of stuff?
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